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from Egypt
said:#alaykom elsalam..
sarah..read my post!!
read wedad's!!
I am upset cause my religion is being violated and no one seems to care..
well ...to everyone..:
I'm not afraid to speak YOUR mind for you!!
from Jordan
said:I've just read her article..
She's wrong by the way, she could've asked me these questions and i'll tell her the meanings of the ayat in the Qur'an.
from Egypt
said:asalam 3alaykom,
Abed..what questions??!!
This is not someone asking ya abed..this is da3wa tanseer wad7a zay elshams!!!
from United States
said:She is a rebel without a clue.
thats why i never go to her blog,she need to grow up and stop beeing dangerous to her self,inappropriate behavior,sorry people like that i have no respect for them.
Well I have seen this girl (wedad) deleting questions for which she had no answer about her beliefs, I am sure that is why she wont allow any comments, she knows that she can never win in a logical discussion, I also saw her copying other people's articles and referring them to herself (http://wedadf.jeeran.com/archive/2006/7/66354.html#comments) see the original one here (http://www.heartlight.org/articles/200606/20060610_brokenmug.html) I actually saw somebody pointing that out to her and that she should mention the actual writer but the comment was deleted shortly afterwards, and I am really offended by the fact that she has a link to a website attacking Islam in a very rude way, yet she still claims to be a good friend of many Muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way the links she has have a lot more of these illusive stories and articles about Islam, I don’t know who they target, but they are always taking verses from the holy Qur’an out of context and trying to convince the ignorant readers that they mean something else. Anyway I wanted to comment on this before, but I thought that this will only draw more attention to her fabricated story, I hope we are not doing this now.
from Sweden
said:i totally agree with what kan3any said about spreading her article by our comments about it..
that kind of people like this wedad whom r clueless and too afraid to face the trouth about thier beliefs will never go for a rational discussion.. and thats why they keep useing parts of the ayat to prove themselvs right and to mislead any ignorant reader..
sometimes helpless people like herself when they cant be strong by what they believe in they keep trying to attack others in order to feel the strength by being offensive..
y3ny zay elly byedrab wyegry 3lshan yesbet lenafso inno gad3 whowa law 7ad raf3 eedo 3leeh bss hay3ayat zay el3eyal la2enno GABAN..
from United States
said:Ukhti al7abeebah "the caller"
I value in you your islamic spirit, and the like of you should be selected as a wife to raise a generation who can carry the message of Islam to the rest of the world.You have made me so happy and proud.
The Christians will try to missguide muslims who are ignorant of their religion. They keep attacking muslims, out of hatred and envy. We should let them be, and don't even waste our time on such people. Yet, if they are willing to sincerely seek the truth and want to listen we are willing to discuss issues of differences. I was faced with people like that in college, and I end up debating them, and they failed to provide one answer for the questions I asked them in their own religion. Islam is solid as steel, and hard as Diamond. It won't hurt it the accusations, and the attacks. Christians are frustrated because more of them are converting to Islam the more they attack it, without any da3wah effort on our part.
Let the dogs bark as much as they want, they won't hurt or affect the high up in the sky clouds.
Wedad is just another missguided soul, who is in such a state 0f confusion, deep inside her, she is scared because she is resisting the call of Islam and she is trying to convence herself that she is on the right path. This is the last stage of strugle of the evil with goodness inside her self. I ask Allah to guide her to Islam, as that will be less soulso one more soul to be saved from Hell. Our messenger SAW, and after him us, are but mercy for humankind.
So please, have patience with her.
I love you in Allah, may Allah keep you and strengthen your Islam
and Ramadan Kareem.
Aboud
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Hamede,You are right..one should not have bothered to be civil with her..and i swear if one of us made such posts we'd be called all kinds of things..but..she's depending on the fact that muslims will fear to be called anti-christians which i know non of us is disrespectful..
I wish i can show you how much people came and read and left..bestakhabo ya3ny..
may allah bless you,u never failed my expectations.
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
kan3any..thank you for coming by,thank allah that someone witnessed previous actions from her side..
Believe me i'm not drawing attention to her..but i have a sense of responsablity towards islam and i can't shut up..
i also trust that my friends will see the truth behind her and let me tell you..it is crystal clear and i really can't imagine how some choose not to see it..
thanks again and you're always welcomed here.
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
aywa ya eno...that's what i said..
but lameness irritates me too..
we mustn't fear anyone but allah..
and we must stand for our religion and our right to say this is wrong and refused!!
big hug..
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Abdullah..welcome welcome..finally at my blog:)
jazak allah kol kheer but i really really ain't that good..
YES,Islam would never be hurt not by us or anyone..but this is simply nahy 3an elmonkar..
This is ABC islam or any religion..to stand for it..
and how she used the quran in misguiding readers is just awful and i can't just shut up and i don't care like others what people would think of me..
may allah bless you and guard you..
i respect you so much,cause you are always solid in your beliefs..
thank you.
from Jordan
said:My dearest the caller ..
first of all .. jazaki Allah kol khair .. I can tell from what you posted here ..and from the several comments on Qwaider's blog that you were absolutely outragious about what wedad has posted .. and to tell you you the truth , I was not able to check that out until today , to know what's going on ..
I salute your honest concern and your courage .. your post is simple yet direct .. I agree with you in everything you have said .. but i only ask you to calm down .. Allah has promised to protect Quran and islam .. and no matter what/who/where/when people will try to mess , badmouth , twist or manipulate whatever is islam all about , they will always fail ..
I am sure Qwaider meant good .. he simply did not wanted a fight to occuer .. and he wanted to show the other side .. with a real story .. we should always hope for the good in people
May allah yejzeeki kol khair .. and may allah yehdeena jamee3an
from Jordan
said:My dear sister,
You know where exactly I stand from all this. And I believe you still remember the post which I have directly pointed to her way in handling her posts.. But, everyone started asking me to delete my post, because I was told that – the mentioned above individual- wanted to spot a light on a certain issue, not attacking Muslims in particular.
AND NOW! At this moment, I wish I haven't deleted that …
Dear,
The story you have referred to was a direct attack! No doubt. And I believe we should all stop dropping by to her blog, as I have stopped doing that a long time ago, because she kicks and allows noone to comment, so why should I bother myself and go there anyway? There is no use!...
Another point to add, The translation she had added about certain 2ayat was so inaccurate and so out of the line, as it is known each 2ayah that individual has referred to was based on a historical story and has a lesson at the end of it… and SO…if that was her way in attacking Muslims, LET IT BE! We all know better :)
The post showed what she really is…the sad part is that someone will still come and defend her deeds, but hey who cares? There are no excuses this time!!…
Last but not least…EGNORE her babe…EGNORANCE is what she deserves…let her post rubbish and comment on herself and let her do what she wants to do…you have to choice to let her go…
May Allah bless you :)
PS. She might come here anyway…and guess what? She will start "BLESSING" us all and "PRAYING" for us … Well… for her, I say: pray for anyone…but not me! I don't need your prayers…I don't want them…msame7tek denya o 2a5ra :)
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
dear danah..thank you so much for your nice comment and your good heart..
I was not mad at wedad..i had to speak my mind and i did..i am mad because of the lameness in the air..
Qwaider or anyone else is free to do what they think is right as well as i am!!
his intension and ours are known by allah..
thank u dear..be fine.
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
neverland..yes you shouldn't have deleted it..
I felt ofended and so did every half muslim any where in the world if he'd read her post..
thanks dear..you're a dear sister.
from Jordan
said:lsn .. am not gonna go so agressive here ... bas its not the first time she does such a thing .. either something is wrong with her or she meant doing it ...so she meant it ... so on the case she shouldn't have taken such attention letting her reach the populars and be read by so many ...
JUST IGNORE she doesn't deserve not her story any minute ...
from Jordan
said:o Akhbar el gameel eh ??! allah knows whats in your heart ..
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
sure she doesn't!!
and sure i'll ignore now...cause i said what i had to say khalas..
thanks mais for showing up..i needed to see a friendly face:)
from Jordan
said:Dear the caller,
My dear sister... bte3refy al 7a2 3ala meen? al 7a2 3ala jeeran 2ly bewazfo nas metel heek...3an Jad... You know, I might leave this blog, and transfer its contents to another one... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I MEAN, the co. founder should stand for what is right, or is it ok with him , you know, for an employee to start attacking people like that? SHO HAD!!!!!!
I am so pissed off right now, as soon as I finish nmy finals I will leave jeeran to another site,,,,, I know I am not that important but I can't stay... bala sneaky creatures metel heek bala ham ya sh-e5a!
from Egypt
said:neverland dear...NO NO NO..not jeeran and let me tell you this..
first,she is posting as a person not an employee and i reacted to her as a blogger and jeeran has nothing to do with that..
i respect 7ala and laith gedan and respect khalidah who left now..
wedad too was o.k..but she shuld expect all this and maybe she did in advance when she posts a story to show that islam is mileading and that one would chnage religions( main point)
Calm down sister princess..and wait and see what happenes..she reads all this and she is quiet but i know she'll show up..
rabena yehdeeha oo yehdeena
from Jordan
said:You know what , my dear? That's our problem as Arabs, we always give excuses because we don't want to hurt anybody, THIS IS SO WRONG! Why do I have to be always considerate and why do I have to pick my words and reactions all the time…?????? Why not nailing the right action in the right time and space without crystallizing them ???W hy not saying this is wrong; instead of saying this isn’t right???????????
You said that Jeeran has nothing to do with it, and I couldn't disagree more... At least for their reputation, certain activities and behaviors shouldn't be done by any of their employees... THIS IS CALLED BUSINESS MORALS AND ETHICS for God’s sake!
Regarding Khalida and 7ala, I respect these ladies so much, and I have nothing against them... on the other hand, I love reading what they post about, because both of them know how to hit the target without involving any types of discriminations… They know how, and what to say!
I know many guys will say that Wedad could've been anyone, and that's true, but when such a discrimination happens some reactions should be done by a company, a note for example! Just out of respect to anyone who loves Jeeran...and Out of their credibility, and let’s say from an ethical point of view...
As for me, I AM SO OUTTA here!
from Egypt
said:As a principal..you're right
but the thing is...i just love jeeran and i can't hold them responsible for her beliefs and acts although i know they are at her side ...she is their friend you know...ya3ny 3eshra oo keda oo akeed tehemohom..bas bardo homa mesh mas2ooleen 3anha..
and enty princess elotatt:):):)
from Egypt
said:neverland..mesh 2aan el2awan tzoory khaltek??!!LOL
love u twin sis:):)
from Jordan
said:love you too sis :D
Getting back to work,
In business there is nothing called friends, 3eshra, and all that stuff you know!
Now, in my next speech ( :D ) I am not talking about Jeeran. I will tell you my dear why you can’t be emotional when you are running a business and also why you can’t leave any space for 3eshra and stuff like that!
When you conduct a business you should be extra focus and extra smart in order to handle all the threats that might occur in the market.
You know, in a developed country, such a mistake can cause the company a lot.. When I say a lot, well… I MEAN A LOT! Because people will give the company a hard time and will force them to face a huge pressure from the public sector… and let me tell you something about competitors, GOD! They die in order to find such a mistake (discrimination for example) and will use it against a certain party without a doubt! But, here in the third world, things don’t work this way because people have less awareness to the non-market issues.
To make myself clearer to you my dear, and to understand what I mean about the non market issue.
The environment of business consists of two major parts: the market issues, which are the tangible concepts of a certain business, the issues which you can target and sense and you can, sort of, control it. On the other hand, the non market issues can’t be controlled because it comes from outside the company, which is basically involved with the ethics, media and such related concepts.
Back to Jeeran and their public participation:
When Jeeran had created the Lebanon Logo, when the war had started, you know what was the first thing that popped into my mind? “Jeeran were smart enough to respond to the public’s concern” … I mean, such moves count big time to the public, and they were smart enough to observe where the non-market environment was hiding, and they positioned t
from Jordan
said:... they were smart enough to observe where the non-market environment was heading, and they positioned themselves just perfectly right!
And so, it is so sad for me , on the other hand, to find such reactions by one of the employees. Double standards? I dunno, but Wedad still counts to be one from Jeeran, and she couldn’t be separated or be treated as an individual.
I am so sorry my dear for this long respond, but couldn’t stop myself from going on and on! God bless you dear :)
I totally agree with neverland jeeran are also responsible for this, they must not allow anybody to have these offensive articles and links in the first place, especially that they are all illusive and fake, if they were decent they shouldn't hire such a person, or at least they should warn her, no one can ask you not to write about your religion, but offending other religions is not acceptable by any means, I appreciate your decision of leaving jeeran I really hope that other people will consider that too.
I totally agree with neverland jeeran are also responsible for this, they must not allow anybody to have these offensive articles and links in the first place, especially that they are all illusive and fake, if they were decent they shouldn't hire such a person, or at least they should warn her, no one can ask you not to write about your religion, but offending other religions is not acceptable by any means, I appreciate your decision of leaving jeeran I really hope that other people will consider that too.
from United States
said:The post has been removed from her blog, now evry one should call her by her name WEDAD FALLAS so people in jordan know who she is,
leaving jeeran why?
SHE SHOULD GO TO HILL.
from Jordan
said:Kanaany,
Thank you so much for you comment..."Sorry the caller, I know my dear you have to say that, but I am your twin, so mafy fare2 :D "
Anywayz, You know Kan2any, I want to make myself more clearer:
Jeeran aren't responsible for all the bloggers here, but SURE they are responsible for their employees! 100%...
There should be a certain image for Jeeran regarding the ethical issues and their employees should stand up for such standards...
And yes I leaving, and thanks for your support, although I do respect Jeeran for doing what they r doing, but on the other hand, I can't stay when such an issue happens on a regular bases!
And YEAH I know they have like 100,000 bloggers and still growing, and so my blog isn't that important, but sometimes you have to do what makes you feel better!
I swear someone will say, She's like a fly trying to annoy a lion, and she won't be able to do that! YES! I AM A STUPID FLY, and for that I am leaving thank you very much :)
Hamede :D Hady al 2esah fa23aneh ma3ak!
Sho sarlak ya zalameh tewlo al comments tab3onak! :D
from Jordan
said:السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته،
أخوتي أعضاء جيران،
نحن سعداء بهذا التواصل و التفاعل الذي نراه بينكم و الذي يشعرنا بقيمة الخدمات التي نقدمها و دورها في تحقيق التضامن و بخلق مجتمع جديد لكل منكم يجد فيه من يشاركه اهتماماته و افكاره. فيما يخص موضوع وداد و المقالين الذين قامت بإضافتهما إلى مدونتها فقد تم التعامل مع الموضوع بعيداً عن العلاقات الشخصية و العواطف. اتفاقية الاستخدام لجيران تمنع مهاجمة أي دين، أو التشكيك فيه عن طريق اي من خدمات جيران و بناءاً عليه فقد تم حذف مقالي وداد بعد تنبيهها الى تعارض محتواها مع ما نؤمن به في جيران.
شكراً جزيلاً لكم و نتمنى أن نكون دائماً عند حسن ظنكم.
from Jordan
said:Hello everybody .. I am the last to know!
What I concluded is really sad indeed. At times we have to stand close to each others some silly idea pops up in one's mind and ruins everything.
La 7awla wala qowata ella bellah. I am disappointed for Wedad's attitude and extremely sad knowing that our reactions still involve watching rather than bridging this gap.
I am sad for what happened and I hope Jeeran will put it in clear way for everybody for future purposes.
from Sweden
said:sub7an allah.. rbbena yeg3alik dayman sabab linosret deeno ya rika..
ans for Fadi.. about those bridges u r dreaming of..
وَلَن تَرْضَى عَنكَ الْيَهُودُ وَلاَ النَّصَارَى حَتَّى تَتَّبِعَ مِلَّتَهُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَى وَلَئِنِ اتَّبَعْتَ أَهْوَاءهُم بَعْدَ الَّذِي جَاءكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ مَا لَكَ مِنَ اللّهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلاَ نَصِيرٍ [البقرة : 120]
from Jordan
said:well,,, i didnt visit her blog since the thing that happened with neverland,i just didnt like her way of talking, but i just did, and what post ur talking about? i guess i didnt find it :S
from United Arab Emirates
said:ESH FEE!!!!! ya jama3a tawlo balkom!!
Well I havent read the post.... so I cant really judge but all i would lke to ask is: DO NOT GET personal!! ya3ni if we want to hate something Wedad SAID then dont get at Wedad in person get back at what she SAID!!! This is the last way you might get her believe in you or even WANT to hear from you...
Comments like : "she need to grow up and stop beeing dangerous to her self,inappropriate behavior,sorry people like that i have no respect for them." " A FLY"
3anjad 3eib!! we are not here to get anyone into Islam nor into Christianity!!! If we want to convert someone into Islam then we should point out the beauty of it.. and not start attacking anyone who doesnt believe in it in that way.. because they will only repel EVEN MORE!!
These comments are just tooooo personal and not very healthy!!! If someone has said something terrible about Islam it is our duty indeed to speak up.. but lets just not be CRAZY doing it!!
If one of your kids does something wrong, you dont snap there heads offf but you rather try telling them where they went wrong bi RAWA2!!!
ana za3lani menkom kolkom 3ala fekra!!!
Peace!
from Jordan
said:THE CALLER MY DEAR!
Fe nefak bel denya aktar men heek!
check this out:
http://wedadf.jeeran.com/archive/2006/9/96584.html
Ya3ny bel awal kan denna salamtek o t3eshy, o hala2 sar mashy 7alo! SHOOOOO HAL NEFAAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!! menshan allah!...
The caller...7ararty sarat 2eshy o 5amseen ya 7abibti :( I swear ...
from Jordan
said:Ramroom ya 7abebti, I meant the fly to be me! I was talking about myself!...
from Jordan
said:Dear Naturalblu,
She deleted them!... the two posts crossed the lines "AGAIN"!
from United Arab Emirates
said:Sorry Neverland :) en7awalet after I read all this :)
from Jordan
said:by the way you all are wrong!! i deletd the post i wished ididnt!!
same answer to kwaider i'll put it to u
answers: dont take it personaly
ruba kawar i know the girl personaly by the way, and i know exactly whats her story not what her husband wrote ...... dont worry already sent her many email and she didnt answer anyone!! guess what!! really dont know! ولمعلوماتك ربى راح ترجع للمسيحية do u know actulay she will back for god for real god not the dead God or someone came to preach and married i dont know in real wife how much one!! she was living in peace and joy, she had a salvation and open door to heaven, she is teh loser...
and by the way i deleted teh post respecting and this man i know personaly, he is from a big Muslem family in jordan, and most people know about him, but he cant say his name on website, do u want him to get killed!!! this is what you do!! no freedom!
لما مسيحي يسير مسلم بتعملوا حفلة وطنة ورنة وبتكيفوا ، زي كأنو اللي عملو صح او هو الي بودي على الجنة بس الحقيقة انو فتح على حالو باب جهنم !
soo sorry iam saying that but u really guys dont understand anything, and wala 3ndkom freedom of speach wala freedom in choose the faith!!! يعني يا بتصير مسلم يا بتموت ، او بتصير مسيحي وبتموت
anyway i deleted teh post respectfuly for many people many friends i know. but know you give me the open door to write anythign i want. and what i beleive. coz when i'll go to god in heaven for sure, and when he asked me about what i did!! akon i said his message and wasalt-ha la kteer nas..
i want to write more, but in future you will understand.
سؤال أخير
اذا انت مسلم مؤمن ، وانت في ايدك وفي القرآن او في الاسلام مفتاح الجنة لكل الناس؟ أول اشي بتعملوا بتحكي للناس الي بتحبهم عشان يكونوا معك في الجنة؟ صح!
this is what iam doing, withouth JESUS no one from you will go to heaven :)
accept the truth
from Jordan
said:why u deleted my comment here!!
anyway iam gonna post it.
aslan its not da3wet tansir aw ishi, its invitation to heaven!! u ento msh fahim u eblis u satan 3ami 3ala 3younkom!!
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Wedad...
Ya wedad..eb3eddy 3ana allah yehdeeky 3ashan begad narfezteeny ba3d ma katabt post lazeez..la2eet elcomment elto7fa beta3tek de..
satan eh oo zeft eh bas..egry egry egry..
balash shoghl atfal ba2a..
:P
from Jordan
said:the caller don't delete her comment, just don't... 5aly jeeran 2ely mwazfenha yekra2oha!
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
neverland dear...first: sorry for not replying your valuable comments..but i nwasn't available yesterday and this morning..u know..teaching ba2a..he he he :)
second: ..i would never delete her comments..they sum things up and clarify her intension so that no one will think i over reacted..
third: read what rasha of jeeran wrote..i posted it and i have to say...they were just as good as i expected..i chose jeeran to be my home..and i'm glad they didn't fail me..i know it's their policy and logic and not about me..but still i'm happy
finally: you dear did a great job illustrating facts when i was away...may allah bless u..i love u and proud of u..
biiig hug:):)
wedad if you know what you have is the truth you don't you ever answer any question about your beliefs, the fact is that you don’t even know what you believe in, if you are confident that you do, then accept my invitation to answer many questions I have about your beliefs on your blog, I will not ask you about details I will just ask you about what you believe in, it should be easy if you know what it is, and I am not talking as a Muslim here I am just talking a person who wants to know more about your beliefs, so lets leave Islam out of this for a while, if you can first make your beliefs sound logical then we will move to comparison level with Islam. Ofcourse I know that it is very improbable that you accept this invitation, and most probably you will pretend that you never read this comment.
As for jeeran, since it is against the rules to offend other religions then also have her remove those offending links, to tell you the truth I feel you are only doing this to avoid losing more people, you know that wedad has done this before but you never warned her, it is just when you felt that your business is in danger you had to do something about it.
from Sweden
said:allahom akhzeek ya wedad!! wb3deen ya benty enty mesh hatgebeeha lbarr walla eeh!! yalla ya mama min hena.. matroshy 7aga ya rasha walla enty 3agbek kida y3ny!!
PS: this is for ramroom elly za3lana minnena awy,, if u dont take offending islam as personal as u can so whats personal to u dear..??!
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
dear brother kan3any..
She will never answer any questions..and really we shouldn't approach her in anyway..cause this girl means disturbing our peace,and my dear friend,we must ask allah to bless her with understanding especially in mercifull days like ramadan..
About jeeran,maybe you're right but i hope not..cause i love them and i know some of them..they have been friends and bloggers whom i respect..but even if you're right..then it's fine also..they considered us now and in the future they will be more alert..
Thank you so much for visiting my blog..hope you'd stay a dear friend always..and see? good came out of this..i have had the honor to know new friends like yourself:):):)
from United States
said:احنا برضو المعمي على قلبنا؟ بس الله يخلّيكي ... نفسي افهم كيف بنعبد الشيطان و احنا بنحاربو!
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Enooooooooo..ya benty..mesh shayfa el cbox elly 3ala shmalek dah??
3abareeny wana 2a3da andah 3aleeky
khalas ya benty...heya 7ateer be3eed ahoh...hehehehe..
ramroom mesh asdaha 3ala fekra...w khally balek elmawdoo3 7asas ...heya sa7b ethom men zaman ya eno..wel 3eshra mathonsh bardo..
love u ya garee2 enta:):):)
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Thank you qwaider for coming by ..mnawar wallah.
from United States
said:The honor is all mine, I really like your passion in defending Islam. Ramadan Kareem :)
from Egypt
said:Kareem oo mubarak 3aleek ya rab..thank you so much:):):)
from United States
said:Ramroom.
She attacked islam.
I attacked her not christian.
So i dont know what you talking about 3aeb,she is your frined and she betrayed you,becouse some people never get past the incredible feeling of ignorat.
So you should know who to say 3aeb to.
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Hamede..i didn't notice "3aib" till now..
7a2ak 3alaya hamede..you're my dear friend and i'm sure reema didn't mean any harm..we all like you and respect you and i know reema does too..
please accept my apology..
And let's not make her succeed in making hard feelings here..i mean wedad..o.k?
peace my friend:)
from Jordan
said:ya3ne mesh 3arfeh keef bedek el nas ye7ebo el mase7eyeh o inte bte7ki be hay el taree2a and if u think that freedom of speech mean that u can insult other ppl religion ur wrong dear, jad mo 3arfeh sho 2a2olek bas allah yehdeeki whoever ur god was!!
from Tunisia
said:انت مدعوو الى لمة الاحباب الخاصة بلمة رمضان بعد شقان الفطر لجيع اعضاء جيران
الرابط هنا
http://mbs29.jeeran.com/archive/2006/9/97075.html
from United States
said:Poem of 3abdurahman 3ashmawi:
أَقْصِرْ، فأنتَ أمامَ وهْمٍ حاشدِ يا من عَبَدْتَ ثلاثةً في واحدِ
أَقْصِرْ، فموجُ الوهْمِ حولكَ لم يزَلْ يقتاتُ حبَّةَ كلِّ قلبٍ حاقدِ
أَقْصِرْ فدونَ رسولِنا وكتابِنا خَرْطُ القَتَادِ وعَزْمُ كلِّ مجاهد
يا أيُّها البابا، رويدَكَ إِنَّنا لنرى التآمُرَ في الدُّخانِ الصاعدِ
في دينِنا نَبْعُ السلامِ ونهرُهُ نورٌ يَفيضُ به تبتُّلُ راشدِ
فَلَنحنُ أوسطُ أمَّةٍ وقفتْ على منهاجِ خالقِها وقوفَ الصامدِ
إنا لنؤمنُ بالمسيحِ ورَفْعِهِ ونزولِهِ فيا نُزولَ الرَّائدِ
فعلامَ تصدُمنا بشرِّ بضاعةٍ معروضةٍ في سوقِ وَهْمٍِ كاسدِ؟؟
أنْساكَ تثليثُ العقيدةٍ خالقاً فَرْداً يتوقُ إليهِ قلبُ العابدِ
أبديتَ بغْضاءَ الفؤادِ وربَّما أخفيْتَ منها ألفَ عقدةِ عَاقدِ
أَتُراكَ تُدركُ سوءَ ما أحدثتَهُ ممَّا اقترفتَ منَ الحديثِ الباردِ؟
عجباً لعقلِكَ كيفَ خانَكَ وَعْيُهُ حتَّى أسأتَ إلى النبيِّ القائدِ؟!
هذا محَّمدُ، أيُّها البابا، أما يكفي منَ الإنجيلِ أقربُ شاهدِ؟
بقدومِهِ هتفَ المسيحُ مبشِّراً بُشرى بموعودٍ لأعظمِ واعدِ
قامتْ عليكَ الحجَّةُ الكبرى فلا تُشْعِلْ بها نيرانَ جمرٍ خامدِ
إنْ كانَ هذا قَوْلَ مُرشدِ قومِهِ فينا، فكيفَ بجاهلٍ ومُعانِدِ؟!
ما قيمةُ التَّاجِ المرصَّعِ، حينما يُطْوَى على وَهْمٍ ورأيٍ فاسدِ؟
يا أيُّها البابا، لدينا حُجَّةٌ كالشمسِ أكبرُ من جُحود الجاحدِ
مليارُنا حيُّ الضمير، وإنْ تكُنْ عصفتْ بهِ منكمْ رياحُ مُكايدِ
قعدَتْ بأمَّتِنا الخطوبُ، ولنْ ترَوْا منها إذا انتفضَتْ تَخاذُلَ قاعدِ
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Abdullah..thank you so much for sharing this great poem with us..
you are welcomed to post any article here..really
from Egypt
said:
الأخت الفاضلة thecaller:
أحيي فيكي غيرتك على دينك . و هذا الموضوع الجيد.
لكن أختي ليس هذا هو الطريق (فما هكذا تورد الإبل).
الأخت الفاضلة النشاط التنصيري بات ملحوظا في الفترة الأخيرة و إن كان بالطبع كان موجودا من قبل في الخفاء . و أذكر أني قرأت خبرا قال فيه أحد القساوسة ذلك أن هناك دعوات تنصيرية لكن لا تشرف عليها الكنيسة إنما "بعض الشباب".
و أذكر أن قويدر الذي أضاف أحد تعليقاته . وجدت فيه مقالا يهاجم فيه الإسلام مدعيا أنه نقله !! .. تماما كما فعل بندكت . و عندما عاتبته حذف تعليقي و الموضوع و اعتذر (كاعتذار بندكت).
و لا أريد أن أناقش علاقتنا بالنصارى و أن أوسع فيها . لكن أريد أن أنصح لأن بعض الناس يتمادون في إظهار المحبة و المودة لهم و يفسرون (لكم دينكم و لي دين) خطأ .. لا أقول أن نعاديهم فهم مصريون مثلنا تماما و لم يأمرنا ديننا بمعاداتهم . و لكن هل يصل الحال لأن أرى أحد الأخوات توصفه (بعمو قويدر !!!) هل وصل بنا الحال إلى هذا!!
صرنا نتقبل كلامهم بالتثليث و بنوة المسيح عليه الصلاة و السلام - و العياذ بالله - . و نأخذ ما يهمنا في الموضوع . و كأنه ما أساء لله !!!!
أعيد ما قلته (ليست هذه دعوة لمعاداتهم) و لكنها دعوة لان نراجع أفعالنا و نرجع لديننا في كل الأفعال.
الأخت الفاضلة . هل فكرت لماذا هذا النشاط في التنصير.
من الغريب أننا نقوم و ننفعل و نتعصب لكن في آخر الأمر . لا نصل لشئ . لأننا لم نعمل عقولنا.
مرجع ذلك شيئين رئيسيين:
- إما أن النصارى يشعرون بالخطر من تنامي الإسلام و انتشاره.
- أو أنهم وجدوا المسلمين من الهوان و الجهل بالدين أو الفقر بحيث يكونون لقمة سائغة.
و الحقيقة أن كليهما صحيح .. فالإسلام ينتشر بدرجة كبيرة و ملحوظة . و وصل الحد إلى أن قساوسة وزوجات قساوسة في مصر أعلنوا اسلامهم (و هل تدركين هذا أختي ! ، رجل دين نصراني يعلن إسلامه ! بالتأكيد يعلم ما لم نعلمه عن النصرانية و علم حقيقة الإسلام.) ، بل تعدى ذلك مما دفع بندكت لمهاجمة الدين و محاولة تشويه صورته.
النقطة الثانية أن المسلمين بلغوا ما بلغوه من ضعف بالفعل . ليس ضعف في القرار و في المعارك . لا . و لكن ضعف في الدين و ال
from Egypt
said:النقطة الثانية أن المسلمين بلغوا ما بلغوه من ضعف بالفعل . ليس ضعف في القرار و في المعارك . لا . و لكن ضعف في الدين و العقيدة .
إني أرى في المدونات مواضيع تنأى بنفسها عن أي فكرة إسلامية . صحيح ما جعلت المدونات لهذا . و لكن لم لا تناقش موضوعات إسلامية و تضع أشياءا تعلمتها ليتعلم منها الآخرون أو ليصحح آخر فكرتك . لماذا جعلنا موضوعا او موضوعين لقمة جافة نضعها لنسكت بها حاجتنا للدين.
معذرة اختي إننا هنا نسير تبع أهواءنا . فما يزيد عدد الزوار نكثر منه بغض النظر عن أي اعتبارات أخرى.
... يتبع ...
from Egypt
said:أعتذر للاطالة . لكن هذا كان لا بد من قول.
و ما الحل لما نحن فيه و ما نواجهه؟.
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لا تنتظري أختنا الفاضلة أن يأتي النصراني باعتذار أو باعتراف باحترامه لدينك . لا تحمليه هو عبء إظهار سماحة الإسلام و فضائله .
الحل فيما أرى لا يخرج عن نقاط ثلاثة و ليس من بينهم معاداتهم أو السب أو توجيه الإهانات للنصرانية.
1- إظهار حقيقة نظرة الإسلام نحو المسيح عليه الصلاة و السلام .
فننقل كل ما قيل عن المسيح عليه الصلاة و السلام في ديننا . قصته و احترام الإسلام له . و اتباع المسلمين له . كل شئ ، فلا يوجدعندنا شئ يمكن أن نخفيه عن المسيح عليه الصلاة و السلام و إني رأيت مدونه حديثة . جزا الله عن أخينا كل خير عما فعل . أرجو منك زيارتها و إضافتها للمفضلة:
http://truejesus.jeeran.com/
فما أعلمه أن النصارى يسرون فيما بينهم أننا أعداء المسيح عليه السلام . إذن فلنعلمهم الحقيقة من واقع كتبنا.
2- توضيح الشبهات و الرد على تهم النصارى .. فهم يستغلون جهل بعض المسلمين بالدين للتشكيك فيه . و الصحيح أنهم هم الجاهلون باللغة و بالنحو و بعلم الحديث بل بقراءة القرآن قراءة صحيحة .
3- عمل موضوعات دينية توضح للمسلم أمور دينه . فيجب ألا نركز مجهودنا في رد النصارى و ننسى تصحيح و توعية المسلم.
فللأسف كثير من المسلمين يجهل ثوابت في دينه ، و إعادة المسلم للطريق الصحيح واجب علينا و له ثوابه و أجره.
هذا ما أرى أختنا الفاضلة . و بالله التوفيق
from United States
said:Check this out:
http://websrvr20.audiovideoweb.com/avwebdswebsrvr2143/news_video/OlbermannBushRoseGarden512K.mov
from Egypt
said:
ههههههههه . بجد و الله ؟!!
معلش يا أخ قويدر جت فيك غلط .. بس انتا السبب لانك أوحيت ليا بكده. لاني مالقتش أي حاجه اسلاميه ساعة ما زرت مدونتك . بالعكس لقيت ساعتها محاباة للنصارى
شكرا أخ حمدان. و معذرة للأخ قويدر
from Egypt
said:السلام عليكم..
اخى باب البحر..
سامحنى و لكن قويدر مسلم و يعرف عن
الاسلام اكثر منى!!
هذه حقيقه و ان كنت اختلف معه فى كثير من الاحيان الا ان ما ظننته انت ليس الا سوء فهم ليس اكثر و كلمة عمو ربما قصدت بها الدعابه..
انا بالفعل زرت المدونه المذكوره صباح
اليوم و اضفتها للمفضله..
اما عن عدم تعلق الموضوعات بالدين: فانا ساتكلم عنى فقط..اخى: حتى الموضوعات الاجتماعيه او التى قد تتسم بخفة الظل يقصد من فحواها غرض يرضى الله..و هى مرات قليله و لكن هذا هو اسلوبى..يجب الا ابعد عن الناس..لغتى لغتهم و همى همهم..و انا مثلهم و نستعين بالله جميعا على الخير!!
و سامحنى اخى العزيز و لكن ما اعتلااضك على تناولى لموضوع وداد؟؟!!
ارجو تفسير ذلك..
from Egypt
said:Asalam 3alaykom,
Abdullah..the link won't open:)
tell me what is it about..
للأسف فقويدر يسوق نفسه على أنه يعرف بالدين فإن كان ملتزما حقا فلا أقل من أن يراعي خلق الإسلام، لقد شاهدته مرة يسب أحد زائريه بعبارة نابية لأنه أظهر له ضعف معلوماته في موضوع ديني والحق يقال أن أسلوب الشخص الآخر كان إستفزازيا ولكنه لم يسبه، كما أنه معتاد على سب أهل كل من لا يعجبهه تعليقه فيقول له كلمات مثل "الحمار أبوك" وهذا ليس من خلق الإسلام أبدا، ناهيك عن خوضه في كثير من المواضيع الدينية بدون علم، حتى أنه يقول أنه قد أصدر فتوى فحسبي الله ونعم الوكيل.
بالمناسبة هذا الشخص يربي كلبا في بيته فأي علم بالدين هذا!!!!!!!!!!
from Egypt
said:السلام عليكم..
اخى كنعانى..
يا صديقى..ارجوك لا تحول الامر الى خلاف بيننا..لان بهذا يفلح المغرضون..
اما عن قويدر..فهو لم يسوق نفسه و لكنه فعلا عنده معلومات دينيه كثيره..و آراء اختلف معه فيها جدا و اكثر من مره اختلفنا..
هو انفعالى شويه..و ممكن يخطىء و كذلك انا و اسمحلى انت!!
يعنى الان..مثلا!!
اما عن الكلب..فيجوز تربيته خارج المنزل لان قويدر عنده باك يارد ممكن يربيه فيها..
عزيزى..نحن لا نعلم الكثير عن بعض.و لذلك يحدث سوء الفهم..و لهذا عندما لا يعجبنى راى لقويدر او لغيره..اساله و اتناقش حتى نستفيد كلنا من بعض..
جزاك الله خير و اهلا بك فى مدونتك:)
from Jordan
said:Hey you guys! Please concentrate!
كنعاني
طول بالك يا زلمة......
Q isn't the enemy here, don't forget that... Yes, he says some REALLY BAD WORDS, and when he disagrees he gets really pissed off, but he's a muslim to the bone, even though he isn't my friend and we really had our bad moments together, but still (wa al 7ak yokal) he knows his religion really good and again he isn't the enemy...
from Egypt
said:7abebty neverland...bellah 3aleeky ma temshy ...'m so happy u dropped by..i love u girl..and when this wedad's mess started i was so busy but i was metamena enek handelling elmawdoo3 ka2ano blogek belzabt..
re consider we7yaty:(
from Jordan
said:كنعاني..
يعني انت قليت أدبك علي انا في مدونة ثانية, والان قاعد بتقيم قويدر..
ياحبيبي, بدل ماتعطينا دروس في الادب والدين والاخلاق, عالاقل احترمنا شوية ؟ صح ؟؟
بالله عليك, قوللي انا شخصيا شو عملتك؟؟
ياحبيبي انا عمري ماأذيت بني أدم؟؟ شوفي بيني وبينك ؟؟
from Jordan
said:ياسيدي وان كانت معلوماتك الدينية واسعة,
سمعت عن الحديث النبوي الشريف "الدين المعاملة"
وين انتا من هذا الحديث ؟؟
وين معاملتك؟؟
يعني ماشالله عليك, كتبت بعض التعليقات, واظهرت معاملتك السيئة للناس, ليش يعني ؟؟
الانسن بتعلم العلم عشان يعمل فيه, مش عشان يهاجم الناس فيه
اتعلم شوية من النبي عليه الصلاة والسلام كيف كان يعامل الناس..المسلمين والكفار
from Egypt
said:لا لا لا ..و عبد كمان؟؟
يا جماعه .صلوا على النبى كده..
ايس الشيطان ان يعبد فى العرب و لكن نجح فى التحريش بينهم!!
يا كنعانى..و الله عبد و قويدر ما يستاهلوا مننا النقد الان ابدا..
يعنى سيبنا الموضوع الاساسى و مسكنا ببعض..
اهدوا بالله كده و خلينا اخوات و حبايب..
يالا..جروب هج يا شباب..
انتوا التلاته بس ها!!
from Jordan
said:wallhy ya benety eny ba7ebek fe allah...Walla...
I will keep in touch with you no matter what...You are a dear sister...
But, I can't my dear ... Wallah I can't stay... Bas, 3ady my dear...YOu know? I am so glad that I knew you...And you know, When I finish my master courses I will have more free time, and we will start chatting together :D YAY!
Take care... O Ramadan Kareem my sweet sista!
from United States
said:اخ كنعاني، انا فعلا اصدرت فتوى وعلى استعداد لمقابلة وجه ربي بها.. و نص الفتوى
شرب قهوة ستار بكس اكثر حراما من الخمر (على اعتبار ان صاحب الشركة من اكبر المتبرعين للجيش الاسرائيلي و اموال القهوة تذهب و تستخدم لقتل اخوتنا في فلسطين و لبنان)
امّا عن تربية الكلب، فاسمحلي، تربية الكلاب ليست لا منكر و لا حراما و لا حتى مكروه. و للعلم كل الانبياء تقريبا ربّو كلاب (لمساعدتهم في الرعي) واصحاب الكهف كان رابعهم او خامسهم او سادسهم كلبهم. يعني ان القرآن اعتبر الكلب (ككائن) جدير ان يعد مع الجماعة
ومن ناحية دينية فالقضية بسيطة "كل الحيوانات" نجسة كلب او غيرها. فهي بهائم لا تعي و لا تدرك.
على العموم هذه الكلبة التي اقتنيها (و لا اربيها فلم اقم بتبنيها) اثبتت لي انها افضل من بشر كثير اعرفهم.. حاشاكم طبعا.. لا اقصد اي منكم
على كل.. جزاكم الله كل خير
from Jordan
said:Abed, Be7yat allah Twel balak brother...Ya Abed menshan allah...
You guys lost concentration, ya3ny we were talking about something o halah2 serna nakol be ba3ad! Tawlo balkom ya shabab!
from Jordan
said:ياجماعة انا مطول بالي والله..
بس كنعاني ما انتقدني
ياريت انتقدني..
انا كنت في أمان الله في مدونة اول مرة بدخلها..كتبت تعليق, راح هو كتب اني غبي!! هيك بدون سبب ؟؟
طبعا كانت اول مرة بشوفو فيها..
هنا التعليق:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13731624&postID=115784245182065366
انا بس حبيت اعطي كنعاني نصيحة صغيرة, وهو حر طبعا
انتو عارفين اني مابزعل حدا..وبسامح الجميع حتى لو يهود..
from Egypt
said:Ya Abed..you are the best and we all know how decent and polite you are..
Allah yehdeena gamee3an oo ramadan kareem:)
from Egypt
said:
شايف خلاف نتيجته مش كويسه . و دايما في صالح النصارى.
جزاكم الله خيرا أختنا بالتذكرة بالحديث (إن الشيطان قد أيس أن يعبده المصلون ولكن في التحريش بينهم .).
أخ قويدر أخونا في الله أولا و أخيرا ..
صحيح أنا ألومه على "فتاواه" الغير دقيقة .. لكن علينا التركيز على قضيتنا.
أختنا الفاضلة . وداد لا تستحق أن يتحدث عنها . فقط عليكي التحذير منها ، فوداد ليست شخص . إنما شبكة تنصير خفية . و لكن الهم الأكبر يجب أن يكون لثلاث نقاط ذكرتها أختي من قبل.
from Jordan
said:الله يسامح الجميع
راح اصلي دايماً الكم وربنا يفرجيكم الحقيقة
انا صرت شبكة تنصيرية ؟ الله يستر افهم من هيك بدكم تفجروني ولا تقتلوني!!
from Egypt
said:اعوذ بالله..
ايه ده يا وداد..نقتلك ايه بس..
لا يا عزيزتى..
الموضوع انتهى و انا عن نفسى اعتبرك اخت عزيزه..اختلف معها.ليس الا.
و بعدين اذا اى حد عنده راى متعلق بالموضوع و ان كان منفعل شويه ده مش معناه ان فيه كره عياذا بالله..
كل سنه و انتى طيبه..رمضان بكره ..
شهر يستحب فيهالاكثار من الخير و الصله و التسامح..
from Egypt
said:
لا . لست شبكة تنصيرية . لكن جزء من شبكة تنصيرية .. بل و ردك للأسف جاء ليؤكد ذلك . فاتهمتنا بالارهاب و التفجير و قتل الآخرين.
إن كان عندك ذرة من الإنصاف . لراجعتي ما قلته عن طرق مواجهتك أنتي و شبكتك .. و ليس فيها (كما قلت مرتين) المعاداة .. ليس فيها المعادااااة فقط كما أمرنا ديننا. فكيف نقتل و نفجر !!
هداك الله و يسر لك ترك الثلاثة و الإيمان بالواحد.
from Egypt
said:السلام عليكم..
و الله لو علم الناس ما فى الاسلام من رحمه و محبه و تسامح ما ابتغى غيره ابدا و لا اتهم ناسه بهذه القسوه..
حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل..
إعرف يا عبد إنو ما في إشي بالدنيا بدون سبب، على كل حال أنا لا أدعي أني شيخ الإسلام أنا أردت أن ألفت النظر إلى ظاهرة غير صحية أبدا وهي بلا شك باب من أبواب مهاجمة أعداء الإسلام له وهي ظاهرة التنظير في الدين من دون علم ولا عمل، فأنا لا أوزع الفتاوى هنا وهناك لأني أعلم علم اليقين أني لست مؤهلا للإفتاء، في المرة القادمة عندما تفكر أن تكتب عن علاقتك بفتاة أرجو أن تحصل على فتوى مسبقة من قويدر تبيح ذلك.
وداد لماذا تجاهلت الدعوة للإجابة عن بعض الأسئلة، كيف "ستهدين" العالم بدون الإجابة عن أسئلته.
from Jordan
said:شايفين شو رجع كتب كنعاني المحترم جدا
اقرأو
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13731624&postID=115784245182065366
ياحبيبي انا ماكنت بدي أرد عليك, ولن ارد عليك..لاني الحمدلله انسان محترم جدا وصاحب اخلاق..ومش هيك أهليي ربوني احكي من الناس :)
شكرا جزيلا..جزاك الله خير..
والله ياأخي كل ذوق واخلاق..ماشالله عليك..الله يحفظك يارب
زي ما قلتلك ما في إشي بلا سبب، ما تعمل فيها أبو أخلاق، وبكفي تبكي وتشكي، أنا بحكي في موضوع تاني هون فما تظل تغيرو، أنا مش مستعد أقعد أردحلك وأذكرك بقلة أدبك، خصوصا إنو صاحبة البلوغ أكيد غير راضية عن هذا الحكي.
from Egypt
said:السلام عليكم..
كنعانى..من فضلك..لن اقبل الهجوم على اصدقائى السلمين المحترمين مثل عابد..من فضلك راجع نفسك لانى لا اود ان اخسر زائر عزيز مثلك..
عبد انسان محترم و لا يقول مثل هذا الكلام اما عن قويدر فقد وضح
from Lebanon
Habibte Assalamo 3alaykom :(
whats wrong ?why you look upset ?